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Given how much TF stuff I post in the Saloon thread, some probably think this is unnecessary, but I don't want to spam that thread too much, so here we go.

 

Rules: Be civil and respectful. 

No nudity,racism/sexism/political discussion.

Have fun.

 

Pics , art, video reviews, music,humorous stuff , sales or recommendations are all welcome!

Third party bootleg discussion is also allowed.  (there's such a wide range of stuff that is cool that many casual fans may not know about)

 

 

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A Filipino TF fan reviews the Power of the Primes Predaking boxset

(IIRc It will come out late July/early August here in the USA and mostly on online retailers. Toys R US would have carried it, but theyre dead now)

 

Get some snacks and enjoy

 

 

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Posted (edited)

Early reviews of the Wave 3 POTP figures.the remaining 3 Terrorcons

 

Sinnertwin

 

 

 

Blot

 

 

 

Cutthroat

 

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Cute South American Soda Commercial featuring Optimus and Bumblebee.

The special effects look quite good for a Tv commercial.

 

It's sad that a soda commercial has Transformers that look better than a big budget Hollywood film series.

 

 

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I didn't mind you posting in the saloon thread, but this is good too. Always welcome to have your stuff!  😃

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Since Leonard Nimoy first appeared in Transformers  32 years ago, I suppose this is coming full circle...

 

Star Trek vs Transformers comic mini -series

 

https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-new-idw-comic-is-mashing-up-star-trek-and-transformer-1826960426

 

 

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io9 can exclusively reveal that this September will see the launch of Star Trek vs. Transformers, a new crossover miniseries from the creative team of writers John Barber and Mike Johnson, alongside artist Philip Murphy and colorist Leonardo Ito. The series—which will run for four issues—is inspired by the aesthetic and continuities from the cartoon iterations of both Trek and Transformers: the 1973 cult classic Star Trek: The Animated Series, and the original 1984 Transformers show.

 

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On 6/21/2018 at 3:17 PM, Deadly_Raver said:

hey. I ran into something called Power of the Primes online a few days ago.  Is this cannon?

 

 

To be honest, I havent watched any of them.

 

MAchinima had made some web shorts for Combiner Wars, Titans Return , and now this line.

They are 10 minute shorts and there are around 10 per series.

 

Ive heard that they arent that good in terms, but thery got PEter Cullen and Judd Nelson back.

I havent seen any mention that this is a "Canon" storyline in any articles or discussions.

Sorry I couldnt help lol

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okay.  I didn't think so, but I figured I'd ask.  To be honest, they aren't all that good when stacked against G1 Transformers.  That horrific "Robots in disguise" shit that came on CN?  Yeah. they blow that shit out of the water at least.  


Come to think of it, I could hand a bag full of oldschool Transformers to a bunch of little kids and they would probably make a better storyline before the end of the day.

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POTP Optimal Optimus Review

( Optimus Primal's Season 3 form after merging with G1 Prime's spark temporarily)

 

 

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A pivotal scene from "Fire in the Sky" recreated with Masterpiece and third party toys...

 

 

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Oh man.  If I could get my hands on the oldschool Skyfire......................Yeah, you'd think I was in the ghetto fighting over some Jordans.

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@DangerousJ Could you explain those to me?  Are those unofficial 3rd party products, like those really cool Chinese/Garage Kit Gundam models?

 

If so, how do they get away with just changing the names?  They clearly still use the same logos/designs.  Name change shouldn't be enough to get away from copyright issues.

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2 hours ago, misterBee said:

@DangerousJ Could you explain those to me?  Are those unofficial 3rd party products, like those really cool Chinese/Garage Kit Gundam models?

 

If so, how do they get away with just changing the names?  They clearly still use the same logos/designs.  Name change shouldn't be enough to get away from copyright issues.

They are unofficial Third party figures from Chinese companies.

The stickers/logos do NOT come with them. This person taking the photo probably just bought some from Toyhax/reprolabels and slapped them on.

All the 3p toys dont feature the terms "Autobot/Decepticon"  , "Cybertron", Starscream"  and have no  Hasbro logo.

 

My take on why they get away with it....

 

1) Chinese trademark law is harder to defend especially by western companies. (Bootlegs of so many things exist in China)

 

2) Certain "technologies" or features may be patented but not an exact appearance. Things like moving  positions of wheels or subtle things  are used to differentiate it from official product. While it looks similar to us fans, the courts may not agree.

 

3) In a weird way, Hasbro  has a "symbiotic" relationship with 3p. A lot of times, they look at what 3p products are popular and then try and do an official take on it.

Many 3p companies were doing updates of the combiner characters before 2015. With the exception of Fall of Cybertron Bruticus in 2012, Hasbro never made combiners in the Generations line till 2015's combiner Wars and that was probably because of all these companies doing updates.

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1 hour ago, DangerousJ said:

They are unofficial Third party figures from Chinese companies.

The stickers/logos do NOT come with them. This person taking the photo probably just bought some from Toyhax/reprolabels and slapped them on.

All the 3p toys dont feature the terms "Autobot/Decepticon"  , "Cybertron", Starscream"  and have no  Hasbro logo.

 

My take on why they get away with it....

 

1) Chinese trademark law is harder to defend especially by western companies. (Bootlegs of so many things exist in China)

 

2) Certain "technologies" or features may be patented but not an exact appearance. Things like moving  positions of wheels or subtle things  are used to differentiate it from official product. While it looks similar to us fans, the courts may not agree.

 

3) In a weird way, Hasbro  has a "symbiotic" relationship with 3p. A lot of times, they look at what 3p products are popular and then try and do an official take on it.

Many 3p companies were doing updates of the combiner characters before 2015. With the exception of Fall of Cybertron Bruticus in 2012, Hasbro never made combiners in the Generations line till 2015's combiner Wars and that was probably because of all these companies doing updates.

The reason I ask is because third party kits are nothing new, but at least with Gundam these are usually very limited quantity and/or are kits for which no 'legitimate' version exists.

 

It's weird that Maketoys not only openly shows off their stuff online, but even has an official distributor in Japan and other countries.  Usually for this kind of thing you gotta go to a local shop and get it, or buy from a third party vendor online.  The way Maketoys does it seems so brazen.

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Yeah it is a very weird thing.

There are so many dozens of these companies and each is releasing so many figures .

 

I dont own any yet, though I am thinking of getting Fans Toys sovereign (a 3p Masterpiece Galvatron) and QuakeWave (3p Masterpiece Shockwave).

Galvatron is my 2nd favorite character after Optimus and there is no official Galvatron official Masterpiece figure.

Shockwave DOES have a official MP figure but IMO Quakewave looks a lot better.

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Posted (edited)

The two biggest combiner  mamma jammas in the Generations line!

Each is 18 inches!

(San Diego Comic Con Devastator on right)

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How stable are these?  Usually combined ones don't pose well/fall apart easily, right?

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1 hour ago, misterBee said:

How stable are these?  Usually combined ones don't pose well/fall apart easily, right?

In the G1 days, yes. But the modern ones are a lot better.

 

I have Superion,Menasor, Defensor,Bruticus and they are generally stable.

Superion is the best. Defensor/Bruticus lean forward but they can still be posed without falling apart.

 

I dont have Devastator, but despite his size, he is stable from video reviews I have watched.

 

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